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topum ([personal profile] topum) wrote2016-02-07 08:27 pm

Middle East

I have two very dear friends. Both of them are very honest, brave and passionate people. Both of them are much smarter than I. I love them dearly.
One of them sees the Israel - Palestine problem like this:


And the other one like this:

I always tell them honestly that I have absolutely no idea and cannot take a view on this. They both find it really strange for some reason. But I just do not know enough and I do not think I am smart enough to ever be able to figure out what is really going on there with all that media noise and manipulation from all sides which has been going on for years it seems.

[identity profile] sleepybadger.livejournal.com 2016-02-07 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way on this. It's one of those many situations where, no matter where you get your information, it's fraught with so much bias and anger that it's not something I think I could ever truly say that I understand.

[identity profile] topum.livejournal.com 2016-02-07 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
I find it surprising that so many people not directly affected by the situation seem to have very clear views on this and many are extremely passionate about those views. I met a lot of people with very firm positions on this. And much fewer people with firm knowledge of even the most basic facts from the history of the problem. I feel there is a disconnect between the two and I wonder what are all those firm views based on and where all that passion is coming from.
Edited 2016-02-07 21:26 (UTC)

[identity profile] sleepybadger.livejournal.com 2016-02-08 02:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, exactly. I've had people ask me my opinion on subjects before and I will honestly tell them that I don't feel I have enough information to take a stand either way. More often than not they tell me that's a "cop out".

[identity profile] mosinging1986.livejournal.com 2016-02-11 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
(Here via the Home Page)

I always tell them honestly that I have absolutely no idea and cannot take a view on this.

Why not? The problem is Muslims are slaughtering Jews, per their texts and the example of their prophet.

They will never stop until Israel is no more and every Jew on earth is exterminated. Pretty simple.

[identity profile] topum.livejournal.com 2016-02-11 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not know anything about their prophet or texts.
And in general it looks more complex to me. And to many others apparently.
Were you ever interested enough in this to research it more or less in depth?
Edited 2016-02-13 03:26 (UTC)

[identity profile] mosinging1986.livejournal.com 2016-02-13 03:50 am (UTC)(link)
I do not know anything about their prophet or texts.

Well, you need to educate yourself in this area. It is the whole foundation of this entire conflict!

[identity profile] prorsus.livejournal.com 2016-02-11 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I flipped twice on this. But am firm now.

[identity profile] topum.livejournal.com 2016-02-11 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Which camp?

[identity profile] oddmuse.livejournal.com 2016-02-13 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I really appreciate your honesty, you don't know much on this subject then you don't take sides, and here it is healthy attitude. Thanks!