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Furtmeyr Bible, Regensburg after 1465

Date: 2016-02-25 10:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topum.livejournal.com
"Prince of this world"?

Date: 2016-02-26 03:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddmuse.livejournal.com
okeeeey, did not see it from this point :)

Date: 2016-02-26 08:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topum.livejournal.com
I think it is a heavily Christian perspective on the serpent. It does not exist in Judaism in this form as far as I am aware.

Date: 2016-02-27 01:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddmuse.livejournal.com
You never know where you learn!
Have to ask my christian friends, why serpent would be called a prince :).

Date: 2016-02-27 01:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topum.livejournal.com
I think Christians link the serpent to satan, like here for example: http://www.gotquestions.org/Satan-serpent.html
And satan is called 'prince of this world' in Christian tradition and in the New Testament, for example here: http://biblehub.com/john/12-31.htm
Google Translate translates "prince of this world" as "князь мира сего" into Russian, not sure if it would sound familiar to you.
As far as I know, in Judaism there is no satan in the Christian sense and certainly not in the 'prince of this world' sense. It is a different setup and a different role there (ditto the serpent).
But I do not know, this is just what goes through my head as I am trying to explain the crown. Interesting isn't it?

Date: 2016-02-27 02:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oddmuse.livejournal.com
It is interesting! In Russian I have heard something like "prince of darkness", but still... Probably crown represents Christian love to Arts, everything related to religion must be very beautiful in Christianity - architecture of churches, all those artworks, icons, incredible crafts...

Date: 2016-02-27 06:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topum.livejournal.com
Oh, I saw someone on my friend list replied to this comment yesterday but they deleted it I see. I wonder why. It was an interesting reply. Now I am determined to figure out why the serpent is pictured in a crown. Watch this space!

Serpent

Date: 2016-03-05 02:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sunblue-sky.livejournal.com

Generally speaking the name Serpent is interchangeable with Satan, and the Devil, and he was also called Lucifer and Morning Star prior to his fall from heaven. The Serpent was also called Prince of the Air, which I take as the transition from physical in the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, to spiritual as in the air or invisible, which indicates a type of royalty… hence the crown in the picture.

The Serpent was an Arch Angel prior to his fall, and a son of God, and today he is the overlord of the Kingdom of Darkness, also why he would be wearing a crown. It should be noted that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was said to be wiser than all the other creatures in the garden, also reason for a crown, at least for that supremacy in intelligence.

All of this stuff is allegorical and metaphorical, as the scriptures are full of that sort of thing. The greater moral to the story is to take precedence over the technical intricacies as they would only be a type of legalism that distracts from the greater lessons to be learned, which is to say that Evil has a face and being attached to it just as Good does, and therein expressing the reality of both.

Re: Serpent

Date: 2016-03-05 11:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] topum.livejournal.com
Thank you for this, very interesting. I tried to do some research into this and saw that some think this is actually Lilith.

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